{"id":1682,"date":"2011-11-02T22:09:31","date_gmt":"2011-11-02T22:09:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monamagick.com\/media\/?p=1682"},"modified":"2016-07-17T17:57:22","modified_gmt":"2016-07-17T17:57:22","slug":"obe-or-time-travel-which-is-real","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.monamagick.com\/media\/2011\/11\/obe-or-time-travel-which-is-real\/","title":{"rendered":"Is it OBE or Time Travel?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\"\"<\/a>The term out-of-body experience<\/em> <\/a>was introduced in 1943 by G.N.M Tyrrell in his book Apparitions<\/em>, and adopted by, for example, \u00a0Celia Green and Robert Monroe\u00a0as a bias-free alternative to belief-centric labels such as “astral projection”, “soul travel”, or “spirit walking”.<\/p>\n

Exactly 116 years ago, in 1895, H. G. Wells classic story The Time Machine was first published in book form. The reason I relate to theses points and time is that it strikes me as odd that I cannot find anything any studies on the conjoining topics which appear to be quite similar. But here we go\u2026<\/p>\n

For some, out-of-body experiences or OBEs occurs spontaneously, while for others it is linked to dangerous circumstances, a near-death experience, a dream-like state or use of chemical substances. For the more experienced OBE can be induced at will. This article isn\u2019t about what OBE is because I\u2019m sure there\u2019s plenty of online references. What I will speak about how closely it relates to a time and place of travel taking place in both mind and space.<\/p>\n

OBEs occur when people lose input from their sense organs, as happens at the\u00a0onset of sleep, while retaining consciousness. This combination\u00a0of events is especially likely when a person passes directly from\u00a0waking into REM sleep<\/a>. In both states the mind is alert and\u00a0active, but in waking it is processing sensory input from the\u00a0outside world, while in dreaming it is creating a mental model\u00a0independent of sensory input. This model includes a body. When\u00a0dreaming, we generally experience ourselves in a body much like\u00a0the “real” one, because that is what we are used to. However, our\u00a0internal senses in the physical body, which when we are awake\u00a0inform us about our position in space and the movement of our\u00a0limbs. This information is cut off in REM sleep. \u00a0Therefore, we\u00a0can dream of doing all kinds of things with our dream bodies —\u00a0flying, dancing, running from monsters, being dismembered — all\u00a0while our physical bodies lie safely in bed.<\/p>\n

I cannot convince anyone what is real beyond what their own perception would allow them to believe and accept<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Lucid dreamers on the other hand often comment to themselves in dreams, “I\u00a0know this is a dream, but it all seems so incredibly real!” All\u00a0this goes to show that the feeling that an event is real does not\u00a0mean that it is happening in the physical world that we all share\u00a0when we are awake. This is not to deny that that inner\u00a0experiences are real, in that they have deeply profound effects\u00a0on our lives. However, as lucid dreaming so amply demonstrates,\u00a0we can learn to distinguish between our personal dreams and\u00a0events in the consensus dream we call physical reality.<\/p>\n

So how does this cross over into the scientific field of Quantum Physics and living proof of what can be done?
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\nOne of the main issues for many physicists is that time-travel back in time is only theoretical, whereas going forward has been proven but what is time but a frame within at thought however real or unreal you may feel or think it is. Scientist know that there are a number of theoretical ways to go back in time, including \u2018worm holes\u2019, which is a tunnel connecting to points in space.\u00a0 However, there are many drawbacks to going back in time not least because of the complications that could arise, such as altering the time-travellers future in a way that would mean he would have existed in the first place\u00a0this is called a paradox. Other issues arising indicate the power needed to travel back in time equates to that of an exploding star, therefore the most feasible, yet still nearing impossible, a way to go back in time has been documented by Stephen Hawking \u2013 you would need to inflate a wormhole, Hawking explains, so it would be big enough for a person to travel through, but believes because of the paradox, travelling backwards through time is not possible.<\/p>\n

However, Hawking does get excited about the possibility of moving forward in time hundreds of years, citing the locomotive example as the most feasible way to travel through time and space.\u00a0 He explains that where they is large masses time is slower, so if we were to orbit a black hole time would essentially be halved here on earth.<\/p>\n

It works like this. According to one interpretation of quantum physics ( btw there are several interpretations, and nobody knows which one, if any, is “right”), every time a quantum object, such as an electron, is faced with a choice, the world divides to allow it to take every possibility on offer. However within a OBE experience the same scientific motions are done with ease without damaging the body. In essence it is the mind that finds the wormhole within the conscious to allow one to go through another dimension via OBE\/time travel.\u00a0 Moving back scientifically: An electron may be faced with a wall containing two holes, so that it must go through one hole or the other. The Universe splits so that in one version of reality — one set of relative dimensions — it goes through the hole on the left, while in the other it goes through the hole on the right. Pushed to its limits, this interpretation says that the Universe is split into infinitely many copies of itself, variations on a basic theme, in which all possible outcomes of all possible “experiments” must happen somewhere in the “multi-universe”. Is it so hard to believe and accept because it may not be so readily proven at this very second?<\/p>\n

How does this resolve the paradoxes? Like this. Suppose someone did go back in time to murder their aunt when she was a little girl. On this multiverse picture, they have slid back to a bifurcation point in history. After killing aunt, they move forward in time, but up a different branch of the multiverse. In this branch of reality, they were never born; but there is no paradox, because in he universe next door aunt is alive and well, so the murderer is born, and goes back in time to commit the foul deed!<\/p>\n

It sounds like science fiction, but again science fiction writers have indeed been here before. Is it so hard to realise that everything is born by a thought-form, force or energy then imade up of particles and bound together\u00a0 to form a mass that allows everything to become \u201creal\u201d in a given universe. This is why it is very complex to explain the how and realism within OBE.<\/p>\n

As I wrote this article the more and more I realised I could go on and on with an indefinite diaglogue in trying to break down the similarities of which of the two between OBE and Time Travel were real or just a figment of one\u2019s immagination. I cannot convince anyone what is real beyond what their own perception would allow them to believe and accept so I thought in closing I\u2019d have \u201cMorpheus\u201d\u00a0 do the explaining for me \u201cHow do you define real? If you\u2019re talking about what you feel, taste smell or see than real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain\u201d.\u00a0\u2666<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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